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Dark Paladin X · May 16, 2009, 03:55 AM // 03:55

God, I really hate this mission. Eternal Grove

Ok, I was trying to do today's Z-quest at Eternal Grove (the one that involves splitting into two groups to protect the Tree Singers). Played it four times with groups of players (note that I don't trust H/H because their AI tends to be stupider than the enemy AI in HM such as aggroing more enemies while still fighting mobs) and come to the conclusion that this mission is impossible in HM. The reason, because when you try to split into two groups of four, the enemy mobs in HM always outpower you. I was using a barrage ranger when doing this.

And don't get me started with the Discord elite necro spell. There have been lots of ppl suggesting bringing three necro heroes with Discord. Here's what I think. Discord really sucks for few things. One, you need both a hex/enchantment AND a condition at the same time in order to do damage, which would be too much of a hassle. Two, Discord only targets one foe, while you can have something like Savannah Heat or barrage splinter weapon to wipe out foes quickly.

Well, good thing I'm a Luxon, since their mission, Gyala Hatchery is easier.

eldrethv · May 16, 2009, 04:06 AM // 04:06

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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X

Two, Discord only targets one foe, while you can have something like Savannah Heat.......

If you're set up with the AP calling build (AP+YMLaD=Your hex and condition) with 3 discords behind you, enemies die in literally seconds. Select target, call, destroy everything in your path.

Full: If target foe is suffering from a condition and under the effect of a hex or an enchantment, that foe suffers 30...94 damage.

Nuking in HM isn't so effective.

Zodiac Meteor · May 16, 2009, 04:11 AM // 04:11

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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X

And don't get me started with the Discord elite necro spell. There have been lots of ppl suggesting bringing three necro heroes with Discord. Here's what I think. Discord really sucks for few things. One, you need both a hex/enchantment AND a condition at the same time in order to do damage, which would be too much of a hassle. Two, Discord only targets one foe, while you can have something like Savannah Heat or barrage splinter weapon to wipe out foes quickly.

Well, good thing I'm a Luxon, since their mission, Gyala Hatchery is easier.

Discord doesnt suck for the requirements, that's really easy to do, it sucks because it doesn't kill super fast.

Discordway isn't working for me either, doesn't kill fast enough and get mobbed. I can get to the last wave but by the time that happens the other split team dies. I'm running my ele healer so I can heal very well, but the other team can't.

I beat it by getting my friend, ironically is a ele healer with the same build, did discordway and had no problems.
What you need:
2 Good healers / Prots.
6 people that can kill super fast.

GG

eldrethv · May 16, 2009, 04:17 AM // 04:17

Assassin's Promise + YMLaD + EVAS + "Finish Him!" + Discordx3 = Unstoppable.

dansamy · May 16, 2009, 04:21 AM // 04:21

My guildie and I did it today quite easily. 2 Jagged bombers, 1 N/Rt Spirit spammer, 2 curses, 1 N/Mo healer. He was a warrior and I am a monk. Easy peasy lemon squeazy.

norn iron · May 16, 2009, 04:42 AM // 04:42

i did it first time 2 players both with sabs got masters and it was quite easy

riceangel · May 16, 2009, 05:18 AM // 05:18

this was very helpful when i was doing it for guardian;http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10359297

also never say anything is impossible when hundreds of people have done it b4

Braxton619 · May 16, 2009, 05:37 AM // 05:37

Lol its easy...

Our team did it just fine.... we kept dying but oh well..

Just stay at the grove for the afflicted in HM as the eles will blast em

Also don't worry bout the tree huggers.. focus on the afflicted

10/10
Easy Mission in HM w/ Bonus

drkn · May 16, 2009, 08:20 AM // 08:20

hybrid monk, minion bomber, additional damage (doesn't matter what as long as it's playable and somehow useful), additional support (interruption mesmer, imbagon or even another monk - whatever you like). on both sides.
just bring a combat ress and you should be fine. done with one friend and heroes.

Princess of Ayundil · May 16, 2009, 08:30 AM // 08:30

Sorry to disappoint you but discord does work. I did the mission yesterday with my husband. I was Blinding surge ele, to help with the condition spamming, also had Pain Inverter and Sin support, my husband was a RoJ smiter prot hybrid and we had 6 discord heroes which were setup as 1 man discord heroes, so the split in the first part wasnt a problem. I also summoned a Golem. The left side is a bit harder then the right, so my husband had all 3 juggernauts. I also put up a Grail and an Armor of salvation. This way it was really easy and got masters reward in HM. With discord it is important to call every single target. And the build has aoe dmg aswell via Putrid Bile. And for the record discord was created with having both condition (via Weaken Armor, Enfeeble etc) and hex (Putrid bile/barbs) in the build.

JONO51 · May 16, 2009, 09:39 AM // 09:39

When I did it ages ago with para, i did it ursan+sabway on both sides with another person off guru actually. i dont think discordway can brute force this due the the sheer numbers and lethality of the mobs.

Did it with a pug as warrior (earthshaker) last night with another war(ursan), 1 assa, 2 monks, 2 mm heroes and ranger hero. Did it first try. Key point is that 9/10 the left side will wipe from the war boss, so be ready. After that, the mission is easy really.

KiLLi4N · May 16, 2009, 09:43 AM // 09:43

Discord rules. Other than that 2x tank + 2x MM + 2x monk + 2x roj/ele is the way to go.

Qaletaqa Hania · May 16, 2009, 09:55 AM // 09:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X

God, I really hate this mission. Eternal Grove

Ok, I was trying to do today's Z-quest at Eternal Grove (the one that involves splitting into two groups to protect the Tree Singers). Played it four times with groups of players (note that I don't trust H/H because their AI tends to be stupider than the enemy AI in HM such as aggroing more enemies while still fighting mobs) and come to the conclusion that this mission is impossible in HM. The reason, because when you try to split into two groups of four, the enemy mobs in HM always outpower you. I was using a barrage ranger when doing this.

And don't get me started with the Discord elite necro spell. There have been lots of ppl suggesting bringing three necro heroes with Discord. Here's what I think. Discord really sucks for few things. One, you need both a hex/enchantment AND a condition at the same time in order to do damage, which would be too much of a hassle. Two, Discord only targets one foe, while you can have something like Savannah Heat or barrage splinter weapon to wipe out foes quickly.

Well, good thing I'm a Luxon, since their mission, Gyala Hatchery is easier.

Lol, this is definatly not impossible. Discord makes it easy as hell, if it doesn't work for you then you have to learn to call your targets so the heroes attack it to.

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Originally Posted by eldrethv

Assassin's Promise + YMLaD + EVAS + "Finish Him!" + Discordx3 = Unstoppable.

The best is Assassin's Promise -> YMLaD -> EVAS + Discord x 3 -> "Finish Him!"

.

Code:

"Finish Him!" = Shout. If target foe has less than 50% Health, that foe takes 44...80 damage and suffers from Cracked Armor and a Deep Wound for 12...20 seconds.

So yeah, "Finish Him!" before Discord is useless, because I doubt the target will be at less then 50% of it's life.

CaseD · May 16, 2009, 11:29 AM // 11:29

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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X

Well, good thing I'm a Luxon, since their mission, Gyala Hatchery is easier.

Personally I'm finding Gyala alot harder than I found Eternal Grove in HM.

I managed Eternal Grove with PUG's, although I mite have got lucky I didn't see that any of them were anything special.

The left gate is alot harder than the right, so the people at right gate would always kill their mob before the left and would then run on over to clear up. Seemed to work pretty well, just make sure the team on let gate is better at surviving and dosn't necissarily need as much damage as right.

Ginger Hunter · May 16, 2009, 12:20 PM // 12:20

my guardian title says this mission is far from impossible. i personally did it with 2 players and the rest heroes. I think my friend ran discord while i ran a more defensive sabway, while i blew stuff up with a crit scythe buffed with strength of honor and splinter weapon. we split 4-4 defending each gate, and when one of us cleared there gate we moved across to help the other, worked really well.

You might be able to try something similar but with an escape scythe especially with the new buffs the strength of honor.

lewis91 · May 16, 2009, 01:06 PM // 13:06

2 eles, with standard hard-nukes.

6 heroes, sabsway is easier when you haven't got a caller.

1 set of sabs on one side, the other set on the other side.

Eles go off nuking turtles that appear. And sometimes more spawn on the right side than the left, so the left ele comes over and help.

Mission time 18minutes

Cuilan · May 16, 2009, 04:23 PM // 16:23

Two MMs and two monks generally wins. The mission really isn't that hard if you use the Juggernauts well.

lakatz · May 16, 2009, 05:46 PM // 17:46

Follow these easy instructions.

http://guildwarsguru.com/forum/showp...65&postcount=4

The henchies to take along are Devona, Cynn, Erys Vasburg and Redemptor Karl.

Take some consumables for the afflicted fight at the end... and enjoy!

Ariena Najea · May 16, 2009, 05:52 PM // 17:52

I'm going to remind everyone that this thread is not about the Discord team, but about ways to complete Eternal Grove in HM. I will continue to delete posts here that do not contribute to the discussion, and will be giving infractions when needed.

AtomicMew · May 16, 2009, 06:05 PM // 18:05

Your problem is taht you took pugway. Take 2 man discordway, split on both sides and you should have no problem whatsoever. I had a problem with the war boss at the end at first, because I wasn't expecting it. Just tank with PS and barbs, should be dead in seconds.